Things
can get hectic in the record biz world, add to that the often
tumultuous journey as a band and you have a situation that can
spin out of control. Scott Hammer is in such a situation - with
the collaboration of a few of his friends, Leeds Point Records
have been releasing music in the South Jersey area (and beyond)
since 2001 and his band, I Control the Dinosaurs is not just
some "mom's garage" band. In fact, with the band under
the label's wing, both these projects look forward to bigger
and better things. Most impressively, things have stayed in
check - proving that it's good to be in control.
Me: Alright, let's talk about your projects. You have,
what, Leeds Point Records and a band?
Scott: I do Leeds Point Records with a friend of mine from
home, South Jersey right outside of Philly, and I'm in a band
now. We're called I Control the Dinosaurs; we're all from
DC. We recorded a record last spring, and we (Leeds Point)
put it out over the summer. We all were in different places
over the summer because each of us goes to school here (DC),
but we got back together in the fall. We played a couple of
shows. We played at Black Eyes, and a show with our friend's
band Bazhena. We're just trying to get our stuff together.
Just got the CD distributed by Dischord, so they're going
to help us out and sell a few, hopefully.
Those are the two things that I'm doing the most right now.
It's good because I can kind of coordinate the two. The band
is directly tied to the label because we put the band out
through the label, and plug the band through the label; have
the label be helped out by whatever success we have here.
Me: I would say being added to Dischord is a success.
How did that happen?
Scott: A friend of mine introduced me to the folks at Dischord.
His band had a record out with them. So, he introduced me
to them. They do distribution for people from DC. They're
really interested in what's going on around here. They're
fairly open-minded about things. Whatever they can do for
us is obviously going to help us out. So, that's good.
Me: So, why'd you form your label?
Scott: It was weird because I had the idea of it while I
was living here. I had been living in DC already for two years.
I had it mind to do something that was based out of South
Jersey. The reason, I guess, is because there was kind of
a slow spot in where my friends and I had all grown up in
South Jersey inheriting the punk and hardcore from the people
that were a couple of years older than us. So, we played in
a bunch of bands and stuff, but it was kind of upsetting because
none of our bands really did anything. Nobody put out records
, I mean obviously we're all kids and nobody could afford
to, and whatever else. But, at the same time, there were a
bunch of good shows and a bunch of good venues. Every VFW
in every town was open and willing to do shows. It was a good
opportunity for kids that couldn't go into Philly.
Me: So, you start up a label to help out South Jersey
bands.
Scott: Right, right. We wanted to help out and kind of revive
things. There was one point in time were all the venues were
closed because nobody wanted to do anything. It was very stagnant.
So we wanted to just brew some life into it. A lot of our
friends were in bands, why don't we try to help them out and
try and put out some of their records? If we could put out
records by these bands, maybe it would be an encouragement
and signify that things were actually going on. Sometimes,
sadly enough, you have to have some sort of material good
to show for your accomplishments as a band. A terrible thing,
not really true in itself, but that's kind of how people measure
it sometimes.
Me: Well, I don't think you need the material side in
order for the band to be significant. It's more of a way to
preserve what went on.
Scott: That's certainly true. That's what's most important
for us. When I said signify I meant something as a representative.
If you're in a band and you have a record it doesn't necessarily
validate you as a band. But, other times, it makes you more
accessible. You can get into more places. Back in the day,
no bands every played outside of anywhere. And I think one
might be able to contribute some of that to the fact that
nobody had anything to show for it. If somebody's like, "Hey,
can I hear your band?" You have to be like, "Well no "
In that way, it doesn't validate your band, but it gives you
a sot of advantage in making yourself known.
Me: Yeah, that makes sense. So, why are you a vegan? What
made you decide to do this?
Scott: Moral reasons, really. I've been vegetarian for a long
time. I became vegan my senior year of high school. It was
always something that was important to me. When I was young,
I could never stand meat. It was really gross to me. When
I was a baby I had to drink soy milk because my parents thought
I was allergic to milk, but it turns out I just really hated
it. I think it was something I always linked between the taste
and the idea. When I was really young I used to try and hide
meat. Then I got older and everything just kind of clicked,
and I thought, "Oh, this is what I should be doing."
I've always felt that way.
Me: Wasn't it a hard transition?
Scott: As far as vegetarianism goes, it wasn't hard at all.
When I was growing up, it was getting pretty well known that
this was a way of life. A lot of people are doing this. It's
actually very legitimate, and very intelligent. Becoming a
vegan was kind of weird. I tried it for a week and it didn't
really take. The first day I tried being a vegan I woke up
and was like, "Man, I really want waffles. Like, I REALLY
want waffles." So, I ate them. But, after a while, it
just became completely natural. It's completely second nature
to me.
Me: So, tell me about your band. I really don't know anything
about it, at all.
Scott: Okay. Well, we're mostly instrumental. So far we're
all instrumental. I don't know if we've decided to do vocals
or anything, but right now it's just instruments. We play
guitar, basses, drums we have a drum set and more traditional
African drums.
Me: Are you serious? How many people are in this band?
Scott: We started with two, my friend Dan and I. We started
playing music in his bedroom. We just kind of wrote some songs
quickly, and we ended up recording them.
Me: Did you use a four track or something?
Scott: We started on a four track, and they were terrible.
Terrible. The quality was just unbelievably poor. But, he's
a computer science guy. He knows a lot about sound recording.
So, he started recording us. We'd just play a bunch and record
instead of really practicing, trying to write songs. We'd
write one thing and be like, "Oh, ok. Let's record that.
That sounds pretty cool." And then we'd try and do another
thing. After awhile we just had these awesome songs which
were kind of collages. It was just the two of us, then we
added a third person who played drums. We got offered a show
at the University of Maryland radio station two weeks after
we started playing together. It was really short notice, but
we wanted to try and legitimate ourselves. So we did and it
actually worked out really well. The drummer had never played
with us before, so he just improvised the whole thing. That's
actually what we did. We pretended like we were going to practice,
but we really didn't. They recorded the whole set. We took
two songs from it and ended up putting them on our record.
The quality was great. They have amazing recording. So that
all came together. So we had two songs, and we recorded two
more. We put out an EP. Since then, we have about six members.
People come in and out, kind of, and just play with us. But,
um, usually when we try and get together we have about six.
So we that, and also we have synthesizers. In addition to
the drums, we have a drum machine that does play drums. We
use it to create background noises, and see what kinds of
weird things we can incorporate into it. I can't really think
of another single band where I can be like, "Oh, we sound
like these guys." Some of our influences, we really like
Gaster del Sol. We have an emphasis on acoustics. We want
it to be organic. I'm learning to play violin, so I want to
learn what other sounds I can play, other than notes, on the
violin to see if I can make it sound pretty awesome. So we'll
see what happens with that.
In Control: An Interview with Scott Hammer
Interview: Kat Boyle
Copyright 2003 Sound the Sirens Magazine